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DIS OldManTiger |
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject: Possible FM3 Insider Secrets.......lol. |
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So...a broad overview:
Car content:
Most of the tuner cars are gone, with the exception of the Mugen Honda Civic and Integra and the Mine's R32 and R34 Skyline. Thankfully, that means the awful tuner car liveries are gone too.
For BrianJ:
1971 Skyline 2000GTR
R33 GTR
No R35 GTR, because they are a bunch of twatwaffles. Apparently the GTR team is independent from the rest of Nissan on many levels, one of them being licensing. The only way they would allow us to use the R35 was if it had no damage, no rollover, no custom wheels, no custom parts that improved performance, no painting, and no livery. So we said no thanks.
I think that's a net +1 to the Skyline count.
The usual suspects have also been added:
Corvette ZR1
'09 Cadillac CTS-V
370Z
Reventon
Ferrari California
Evo X
GR STI
Camaro
Veyron
etc....
If you like your wheels old school:
Fiat 131 Abarth
2nd gen Toyota Celica Supra
250 Testa Rossa
Aston Martin DB5
If you like shitboxes:
Versa
Yaris
Aveo
Xd
If you like Smokey and the Bandit or Knight Rider:
'79 Camaro Z28
'87 Firebird
'88 Camaro IROC-Z
If you like trucks:
Rang Rover Supercharged
Saleen S331 Supercab
Ram SRT10
Audi Q7
VW Toureg
Porsche Cayenne
If you like Italians:
Alfa 8C
Alfa Brera
Alfa Mito
Fiat 500 Abarth
If you like race cars:
Aston Martin Prodrive DB9s
997 and E92 BMW GT cars
Porsche, Acura, and Mazda LMP cars
Other interesting stuff:
ST205 Celica GT4
RS200 Evolution
'69 Dodge Charger Daytona
AMG SL65 Black
Renaultsport Twingo
Meh....that's all I can think of off the top of my head. If you ask about a specific car it may jog my memory.
As far as tracks go, the only big licensed one we added was Le Mans. Fujimikaido is back though and pretty cool, and we have some imaginary tracks that are a huge improvement over the older stuff.
The big change to the Livery Editor is that all cars, including race cars, are paintable now. Black on black on black Ferrari Prodrive 550 GT1 racecar looks awesome. That is all.
As far as rollover goes, what you saw in the first video is pretty hard to accomplish. It won't be like Burnout where every car to car contact will result in exploding rollover mayhem. It's actually fairly hard to do. So don't worry. While physics compromises were made in order to make the game "more fun" to a wider audience, it's still more simulator than arcade.
The "one button" racing mode is basically massive assists and auto braking. You still have to steer and hit the gas, but it's designed for super casual quasi car guys that just want to race a pretty car around a track. All assists can be progressively turned off if you like.
Customising has a new "quick option" that allows you to set a PI limit, then bias it in favor of speed or handling, and the game will select a set of upgrades for you. Should make getting a car tuned for a PI limit race easier for the uninitiated.
The DLC plan is for 10 cars a month for the next year. Some of the cars will be things that didn't make it into the release version, like the Ford Escort RS1800 - some will be new cars we haven't seen yet, like the Corvette Gran Sport. I haven't the slightest clue what the track DLC plan is.
That's about it for now off the top of my head that might be interesting to you guys. Cheers.
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No 24 hour races if that's what your thinking.
Other things that got cut:
Weather
Night/day
Active aero (again!)
Widebody kits with 12 inch wheels
Some really cool driver animations
Some digital gauge animations
Custom underbodies (with rollover comes undercarriage modeling - unfortunately, all the cars use a generic layouts, so sometimes they are wrong; like the Lamborghinis have the transmission rearward of the engine instead of infront, etc.)
Super high level of detail car models in replays (Currently the super high detailed models are used in the UI homespace/garage, thumbnails, livery editor, and photo mode).
No exposed suspension cars like Ariel Atoms, Lotus 340Rs or Caterhams, even though T10 owns PGR and they had the tech to model working suspensions.
Most of the cuts came about because there is immense pressure to hit the release date. There are careers on the line with this one, because FM1 and FM2 were so late. There WILL be a game called FM3 ready to go for October, the only question has been what kind of game it will be.
No WTCC cars,
There will Australian Supercars though, both Holdens and Fords. And NASCAR cars in all their asymetrical glory
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Oh yeah. Fox body '93 Cobra R - in.
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The new Focus RS and the Fiesta.
Others I forgot to throw in there:
AMG ML63
Aston DBS
Alfa Giulia Sprint
510
G8 GXP
Evora
135i
E60 M5
M1
X5 4.8i
Z4M Coupe
'94 Miata R-package
'78 Firebird
Viper SRT10 ACR
300C SRT8
Challenger SRT8
'09 Fit Sport
6th gen GTI
Scirocco
Volvo C30 R-Design
Mazdaspeed3
Citroen C4 VTS
IS-F
A4 Touring Car
C-Class Touring Car
Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe (might be DLC, can't remember)
Stuff coming in DLC:
Lancia 037
Corvette Grand Sport
ST165 Celica GT4
Escort RS Cosworth
SLR Stirling Moss
'10 Shelby GT500
Murcielago LP670SV
RX-3SP
Starion Turbo
MR2 Supercharged
'10 Boxster S
Panamera
599FX
'64 Impala SS
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Okay....so, the video.
One of the community coordinators is a member of Team Blackjack, who do really cool drift videos using the existing physics engine. T10 took one of their videos and said "Using our tools, turn this up to 11". Unfortunately, it was turned up to Ludicrous Speed. Every single car guy who saw the video hated it. Everyone was overruled by upper management on the basis that if the Team Blackjack videos were good, then this would be even more exciting, and they made it a centerpiece of the E3 presentation.
Most of what was in the video is possible with the game physics engine, if you have the tuning and driving skill to pull it off. The egregiously silly stuff was....shall we say, "tuned" for the video.
Fear not for the physics. Although there were compromises made in the interest of playability and accessibility, I think that the car dynamics will be pretty satisfying for you guys. The people that are largely responsible for the physics behavior are of a much higher caliber "car guy" then last time, and include a rally driver, a very experienced autocrosser, and a guy who used to design suspension bits for H&R, so I think as much as it is possible for a title like this, the physics will be on lockdown. I'm sure people will find things to nitpick with, but that's just the reality of designing a huge title meant to appeal to a very wide base of people in a compressed amount of time." _________________
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DIS Boppinz |
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:12 am Post subject: |
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I saw a lot of cool stuff in there, although the no night/day, and widebody parts is super fail.
Several things I'll be praying for are:
Realistic wind noise.
Night racing.
No 540 degree spins when you tap a wall.
Paintable windows.
Ebisu
Irwindale
Toyota Chaser
Toyota Cresida
Toyota Soarer/SC300
RWD Skylines
240SX Coupe
180SX Hatchback (how could they leave out these 2 cars 3 times in a row!!!!!)
2006 M6
2004 M3 CSL
All I can think of for now.
(This is my response to the teaser video for FM3, more than anything)
My problem with any racing game claiming to be a "driving sim" has always been the exotics. Sure everyone and their mother loves them. But this is supposed to be a driving "simulator" and chances are, I'll never own or drive a Lamborghini or Ferrari. Therefore I have nothing to compare it to. I think being able to fully customize/tune cars most of us could actually buy and/or afford would be more of a "simulation". And it would be cool to have a little more time spent on those cars we know and love with the sacrifice of these High End cars.
I'm sorry but I would have been 100x more excited if they just showed a few clips of some busted a** S13 or even a newer Mustang or Camaro just "gettin it" around a corner or even a group of time attack cars with maybe some scars/healights/bumpers taped up, all lining up about to race. That, my friends... is real.
I have NEVER, never in my life seen a group of freshly painted, show room floor-status exotic cars shooting down a raceway or even a mountain road together. Yes they are cool to see but you don't see them everyday and especially not all at one time, unless you come across a group of extremely rich people who actually "drive" their cars they way they were meant to be driven. And the odds of that happening... aren't in your favor. I've been to Porsche events at Sebring and other locations and truthfully, I didn't see hardly any new Porsches. The newest car on the track was a G35, the rest were older 911's and 944's, the newest 911 being like 2002. Half the new cars probably don't even have parts developed for them yet.
I get it, it's nice to see the exotics, and be able to "virtually" drive or even wreck a machine that I may never be able to in real life, but at the same time, that's not "real" to me. That's not a simulation of anything I've ever witnessed. Those cars are meant to be rare. Flaunting them and making them the "hook" to reel people in who normally wouldn't play such a game is getting old. Almost every racing game does it. I just hope we see more hardcore gearhead related content for T10's true customers who still play FM2 almost every day, rather than wasting time on content that panders to the people who will buy the game only to play it for a month, then trade it in on the next new release. I know that's where it comes down to a money/time issue. But seriously... I would wait and pay more for a game that had more of what we requested.
The sad thing is... I'm sure most of us would continue to play FM2 for another couple years if they would have just given us more tracks and cars every couple months, lol.
Anyway, I'm hoping for 3 to be a huge improvement over FM2. I'm just not crossing my fingers for content I know won't be delivered.
Well I got all that out. Anyone agree, disagree?
PS... Why is this in the 3T Drifting Section? lol _________________ DIS.SE7EN1.UNBROKEN
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s13phocker |
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:22 am Post subject: |
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they put it over here so i could see it . tiger wanted it to be private because its inside info bo one else has ....
and i hope they take out that 240sx coupe . they really need to put the hatch it .. the coupe is so fugly ... _________________ i pown noobs |
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DIS Gandhi |
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with phocker..... WOW, I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD EVER SAY THAT LOL _________________
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DIS Boppinz |
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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s13phocker wrote: |
and i hope they add the 240sx coupe . once you go coupe, hatchback is poop... |
*FIXED!!!* _________________ DIS.SE7EN1.UNBROKEN
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s13phocker |
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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DIS Boppinz wrote: |
s13phocker wrote: |
and i hope they add the 240sx coupe . once you go coupe, hatchback is poop... |
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lol i see what you did there ...
but the coupe is so poop ... fugle a** car // ..
your just mad because you know the hatch is way better then the coupe / _________________ i pown noobs |
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ID LOWLIFE |
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Laughlin NV
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Fox Body Style Mustang! its all worth it now! _________________
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DIS MoLicious |
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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thats some good insider info there..i like, i like _________________
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DIS Schmitty |
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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If it's even true...... cough |
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DIS Pointguard |
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Cough, Cough. _________________ Gearbox Tuning
SW2 Tuning
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DIS OldManTiger |
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I hope some of its true.... _________________
GT- DIS OldManTiger - I'm no meteorologist, but I'm pretty sure its raining b*tches! |
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DIS Schmitty |
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:20 am Post subject: |
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I hope most of it is, minus the nighttime and r35 not being in it. |
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DIS Gandhi |
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:14 am Post subject: |
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DIS Schmitty wrote: |
I hope most of it is, minus the nighttime and r35 not being in it. |
+1. If they don't put the R35 in it, I'm going to have to hurt someone _________________
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